Does anybody else think these two will hit it off? I mean, fobodden love right? [warewolves and vampires are enemy's] So what does everybody else think?

Do you guys see them hooking up? Or just friends?

I think I'm one of the few that that does care lol and it's nice to read someone else Alaska. I think the point of the character of Maia was to have someone for Simon as he can not have Clary as she loves Jace. Others think that Simon might die in CoG, but I doubt that since Cassandra wrote in the character of Maia. I think that Maia's only purpose in these books is to be with Simon.

And it will be kind of interesting how the forbidden love will go as a vampire and a werewolf! I also think having Simon be able to go out in the daylight was written to help facillate the relationship between Maia and him. So, i'm with you Alaska, I'm a Maia/Simon shipper.

I HAVE to care about Mia. Because does a certain Jace/Clary shipper remember the end of CoA?

"I am going to go see Jace."
"Have fun with Jace! I am going to go hand with Mia!"

If Mia wasn't there then Clary would be all like "ohh... Poor Simon all alone, I con't go see Jace because I have to stay with Simon!"

If Mia hadn't arrived, then Clary might still be with Simon. So Mia is definitely on my good list.

And I really don't see Simon dying. Like... he kind of became too much of a character. In CoB, he was the best friend. If he died, so what? But now, he is a vampire that can define logic by going out in daylight, and he has a very good chance of hooking up woth his mortal enemy, a warewolf. There is definitely too much character to kill of now. And besides, now that he doesn't stand in Clary and Jace's way [of being together because shammit they will] I actually kind of really like him. And he is funny.

And if they do get together I think that we will see more of Mia and I think she will get more of a character. But then again.... there is also the slight problem that maybe she really is a nobody.

Like, Valentine needed a fey child, a moon child, a night child, and a warlock. "Shoot! I don't have a warewolf. Uhh..... ummm... here. Mia. sounds good." You know? So there could be a chance that nothing happens.

And I will just state this, I think it is super funny how we have depicted strong opinions about a character that we haven't even met [Sabastien] but we don't care about a charctaer that has been there through out an entire book. XD

To be truly honest, anybody that stands in the way of Jace and Clary I hate. That's why you know how the second chapter of CoA was in Mia's perspective? As soon as I read that Mia was a girl, who hater pretty boys I was like "no." beause I thought she was going to end up with Jace. Which is also why I hated Alec for a long time because I tough he might end up with Jace. And I hated Simon cause he might have had ended up with Clary. And Isabelle too. For the longest time, even after Jace said they would never be together, I didn't like her because I though she and Jace might be together. But then the two threats [Mia and Simon] got together and I was like "Yes! Epic Winhood!"

And you are right, it does sort of sound like Simon will stay in NY and Clary will go to the City of Glass, but i tdon't think so. In CoB I thought that Simon was a nobody, and here he comes in when Jace and Clary kiss and screws everything up. Then in CoA I though he was gone, nope. Worse. He and Clary hooked up. The he became a vampire and I thought that was going to be the end of their relationship. Nope. And THEN he dies. And I was like "Score! Yes! Simon is dead!" And you know what happens? Jace brings him to life. Screw it! >.< So I doubt he will be left home alone. No way. He has been able to stick around for this long he aint leaving.

But even if he does still love Clary, Clary knows it won't work because she doesn't love him the same way. She loves Jase and Simon won't be able to stand in the way again.

I agree with the general opinion that Maia and Simon are going to go Underworld on us and like... unite weres and vamps.

I guess I was the few who liked Maia's character She reminds me of that spunky chick from the Disney Atlantis movie. I know she's not spanish, but still. I guess when she was blubbering in the boat all that badass talk was like "awww gone.." but at least she has feelings. being a werewolf adds awesome points for me too

For the both of them, they just need to go badass. Hardcore.

I want them to be together but being a fall back can be rough, I just hope Mia can handle it.

The Whole Forbidden Love thing seems to be everywhere in this novel!

Jace and Clary can't be together because they are related.
Luke can't confess his love to Jocelyn because hes a werewolf and was Valentines bestfriend.
Simon and Maia can't be together becasue the are werewolf and Vampire.
Alec can't confess to anyone about being gay, so he hinders his love for Jace and hides his relationship with Magnus.

I say we support the forbidden love!
yay Simon and Maia!
* Happy dance*


sorry... that was kind of off topic..I had to get it out though.

Alaska wrote:

Like, Valentine needed a fey child, a moon child, a night child, and a warlock. "Shoot! I don't have a warewolf. Uhh..... ummm... here. Mia. sounds good." You know? So there could be a chance that nothing happens.

That is not true. If CC wanted to introduce a werewolf just for the sake of Valentine having one to sacrifice then he/she would truly be a no one like Elias the warlock in the beginning of CoA or the nobody werewolf Valentine and his Agramon attached outside the Hunter's Moon. Actually she didn't have to introduce one at all she could always use Luke. He is an old acquaintance, one of Valentine's mortal enemies and very important to people Valentine wished to manipulate such as Clary. So no, Maia's character was too developed and we were given too much of her back-story for her to be a nobody.

I believe if Simon was to die it would have happened in CoA. God knows CC had more than enough opportunities to finish him of but chose NOT to. I believe there is a reason for that. Simon was a human who became a vampire who drank Nephilim blood and is the first one of his kind to be able to walk in the sunlight and joined the final battle of Nephilims vs Demons. Like or not he's a huge character with an important part to play. Plus, I believe that after all that Simon's been through, he deserves a long, good life filled with love which apparently Maia can provide.

Simon and Maia are a true modern/urban fantasy Romeo and Juliet. They come from two completely different worlds who are mortal enemies and I'm certain would do anything in their power to ruin their union. Luke might not object (even though we can't be sure whether or not his pack will force him to take action) but I'm sure Raphael will have a few things to say about Simon and Maia being together. So very interesting couple with a lot of possibilities rising in the horizon.

People need to un-focus from (?) Clary and Jace there is so much more to this series.

Okay, before I even comment, I just have to say that her name is Maia not Mia. Geez! If I were a moderator I'd edit every single Mia on this board. I'm not genius but simple misspellings is an honest-to-god-I-want-to-choke-this-person pet peeve of mine. I tend to overreact to such things.

*calms down*

Anyway, I think Lucian11 said it best when he(I'm assuming) said that people need to be more open to other couples in the book. I find it absolutely frustrating when so many fan(girls)s of a great franchise misinterpret the meaning/message of a book because their main focus is, "I want him and her to get together and I'd like for the obstacle to die."

Truth be told, I'd expect Jace to die before Simon. Like Lucian11 said, Simon had PLENTY of opportunity to bite the dust in the first two books(especially the second one) and he's still around. I think the death tease with Simon is should come to an halt now.

Anyway, I like the idea of Maia and Simon. To be honest, I'm not one of those crazy fangirl shippers(I'm a boy but I'm saying that in general terms). I have to study the dynamic, interaction, and development between two characters before I go all out and say "I ship them!" That said, I like Clary/Jace so far but I'm not up to "shipping" status with them yet. I'm a lot more open to other possibilities, including the slashy ones(Jalec, anyone?).

I find Maia/Jace to be an interesting one because Maia has a personal hate for Jace.... I know, I know. People are probably saying, "She hates Simon too!" but her hate for Simon is what she believes to be instinct. Her hate for Jace, on the other hand, is a lot more emotional. It has nothing to do with her disease but with the experience of her brother, Daniel, and how his torment has jaded her against the occassional good-looking guy. I think a relationship with Jace(whether it be friendship or whatever) can be excellent character development on her part.

I'm also not too much against Simon/Clary either. I think I love their affectionate friendship more than an actual boyfriend-girlfriend relationship, though.

That said, Simon/Maia seems to be the best option for the both of them. Plus, there's that vampire/werewolf-Romeo/Juliet dynamic that makes for what would be an interesting couple, I think. And I can't lie: that one part in CoA where their fingers brushed was extremely touching. The subtly of it all really brung out the fangirl in me. I can honestly say I like Maia/Simon more than Clary/Jace.

Umm it's Maia. And I ship it. I love vampire/werewolf Ships (SONJA/LUCIAN FOREVER! ignore that. I'm an underworld fangirl.) And also, I do like boith characters and think they'd be a good couple.

When Maia first showed up,I thought she would be Jace's new love interest or he would be hers,but...Then there was her first scene with Simon and it was so sweet *-* Simon/Maia is defntly one of my favourite couples.There is the whole vamp/wolfgirl thing,but not only this.From the first moment it was clear they felt something for each other and not just ancient hate or friendship-to-be.I hope they end up together on Simon's book.

And seriously,I never liked the idea of Simon/Isabelle.It felt so wrong,she is ISABELLE!She certainly deserves someone better.And when on earth would a girl like her probably be interested on a guy like him?She's like the diva and he's the class loser,let's say.Just saying the truth...And for the record,I don't officially ship Izzy with anyone.Well,actually,I do,but it's an insane idea of mine...I mean,Isabelle/Sebastian would never happen.Not after what he showed up to be.But still...

It's a little sterotypical what you said about the izzy/simon thing but oh well