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PostSubject: simon dieing...   Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:10 pm

okay don't read this if you havent finished coa yet or open it if you like spoilers
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PostSubject: Re: simon dieing...   Mon Dec 08, 2008 8:42 pm

Im not sure that I was happy about Simon's death, I rather enjoyed his role in the book, and I think with out him, the book would be lacking something. However I do think that in the third book COG, he may not be so lucky. Ofcourse I am a totaly fan of Jace and Clary together.. but I think the relationship between Simon and Clary is vital to the book.

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PostSubject: Re: simon dieing...   Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:58 am

Yes, I actually totally did. But see, it's not because I don't like Simon or anything, and it doesn't actually have to do with Simon at all -- I am just like that. What I mean by that is, I read a book, and I get a couple in my head. Now, I will love this couple. It doesn't matter if I loathe the characters, I will love them together. Now if anybody comes along and either does, or threatens to, ruin the relationship... well, I saw FUCK them. And I kinda start to hate a little. XD. It's really rediculous, i know, But I've always been like that with books.

In CoA, when Maia comes along, I really did hate her. Because I thought she was going to end up with Jace. I actually seriously did. So I hated her. Until I realized there was no way of them hooking up. XD. [threat gone]. But then Simon has to butt in with his "ohhh I loooveee youuu" Urg. ARRGGG. Sorry. XD. So obviously when he died, I was celebrating. "Oh yessss! Threat gone! yes! Clary and Jace can be togethurrr" So I was pretty miffed when he came back. >.> And then he like, died again, and I was reaaally happy again, and then boom. He's alive. Great.

But seirously, Simon is pretty great. I mean, he offers wonderful comedic relief. But he's just the 'normal' guy, who wants in on the world, but he's not allowed but dammit he wants to be apart of it. Clary is like that too, but at least she has ful right to it -- she is a shadowhunter after all. Simon's a mundie. Well... not anymore but still. It was the same thing with Corny in the Tithe books. He had no tie to the world, but dammit despite me being a normal human I want part of it. Urg. And he was a bump in the road to perfect Clarace. If he remained the best friend, I probably would have loved him all the way through. But he just kept stealing Clary's attention back to him every sinlge time she came close to Jace. And it pisses me off how Clary doesn't take into consideration to Jace's feelings. well.... I guess I actually can't be mad at her for that because it WOULD be a difficult balence to keep [Jace and Simon] but I don't know. I was just really glad when I thought he died.

If in CoG I can see a perfect shot with Clary and Jace, and they are definitely there, then I'll be totally cool with Simon again. But if there comes a moment when they are JUST about to get close, and then some guy runs in "Simon's in Jail!" and then Clary goes "Oh noes. Screw off Jace. SIMON need me more right now." and then Jace does what Jace does best [close off from the world once more] and then Clary goes to Simon I will seriously hope he gets some major torture in that jailcell. Urg.
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PostSubject: Re: simon dieing...   Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:09 am

I'm gonna go with absolutely not! I love Simon and his relationship with Clary. I mean, not in terms of the both of them dating but just their relationship in general. The friendship and connection those two share. Clary may not be in love with Simon but she loves him more than anything and that speaks more to me than a forbidden relationship between a guy and his supposed sister. And I'm not trying to sound anti-Jace/Clary but we have to be serious here. As far as Clary and Jace are concerned, they are blood-related(yeah... I'm pretty sure they aren't but they don't know that) and for them to pursue a relationship with that knowledge would've been sickening. For moments of the book, I hated Jace and Clary and how they couldn't seem to hold aside their affectionate feelings for one another. And for Simon, the victim in all of this, to be killed off? Oh no, I wouldn't have been able to take it.

Don't get me wrong, I like Clary and Jace(I'm not head-over-heels for them but I like them) but there are a lot of moments in CoA that I could've gone without. The kiss was acceptable only because it was against their will but everything else? The tender touching. The angsty confrontations. Ummm... no. It makes Clary look weak -- and I hate to sound anti-femenist here but weak female characters seem to be role models in popular fantasy fiction.

I must admit though, I think Cassandra was brave in writing such a tender relationship between Jace and Clary under the circumstances.

I'm swaying way off topic here. In closing, I don't think Simon's death would have benefitted anything but an easy excuse to end to the triangle. I also find his role in the book to be very vital, as well as his relationship with Clary(as LimeSlice pointed out). My little rant came from the fact that people only wished for Simon's death because they view him as a threat to Jace/Clary. I find that to be extremely juvenile. But I can't say I'm surprised, seeing as the average age for members on the board seem to be somewhere between 13 and 15. Irrationalism is inevitable.
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PostSubject: Re: simon dieing...   Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:54 am

im srry to disagree wit u but i was happy whn simon was alive again and with him being able to go in the sunlight thts awesome! yet im happy simon and clary broke up bc i can only see thm as lik bst friends and stuff so yea!
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PostSubject: Re: simon dieing...   Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:27 pm

I was sobbing when I thought Simon died! He is my favorite character. (:
I'm happy that he didn't die.
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PostSubject: Re: simon dieing...   Tue Jun 16, 2009 10:45 am

I was smiling so hard when Raphael brought Simon to the institute in his arms.

(I had read a spoiler on her site, and knew a little bit about what was coming.)

I was like, "No, he can't be dead... I have already read the first sentence of CoG..."

So I was SOOO happy about what had happened to Simon. He is the best character ever!
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PostSubject: Re: simon dieing...   Tue Jun 16, 2009 5:19 pm

He seriously is my favourite character Smile I dont know what i would do without him and when he 'died' i was inconsolable, like seriously devastated! But then Jace saved him and I felt soooooo relieved. And to make things even better he survived the sunlight Smile He is special!!
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PostSubject: Re: simon dieing...   Sat Aug 01, 2009 2:32 pm

When I saw that I was like "Noooooooo! SIMON! Don't die! I dont want the book to center around Mr. Tall Blonde & Buff!!!!" I'm a bit Anti-Jace....
DON'T KILL ME!!!

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PostSubject: Re: simon dieing...   Sun Aug 02, 2009 6:23 pm

Don't worry you're not alone with being a tad anti-Jace Smile
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PostSubject: Re: simon dieing...   Tue Aug 04, 2009 7:00 pm

That's good.
Because every other Mortal Instruments fan I've talked to (not on here I haven't spoke to many people on here) looooooves Jace. I'm just weird lol

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