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PostSubject: Chapter 5: Clave and Covenant   Sat Aug 09, 2008 6:00 am

What were your first thoughts about Clary waking up to Alec and Isabelle? Did you get the vibe that Jace and Isabelle liked eachother? What was your first impression of Hodge? What was your first impression of Jace and Alec's relationship? Do you think Jace was wrong by putting the rune on Clary? Did anyone suspect Hodge of foul play with that whole deal with the note or whatevahhh? What up with the super smart cat, Church? Did anyone else think the name "Valentine" for the 'big bad villain' was hilarious?

Extra Credit if you can spot the typo in this chapter Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Chapter 5: Clave and Covenant   Wed Aug 13, 2008 10:41 pm

My impression of Isabelle: Bitch - I didn't see any evidence that she was into Jace.
My impression of Alec: (Kind of sexy) Jerk [and despite his sexuality, I still think he's hawt... just not a jerk]. I had no idea why he was being so mean - him liking Clary or being gay never even crossed my mind - so I just assumed that was his usual demeanor.

Hodge reminded me of Dumbledore and some guy who's name I can't remember from the Pellinor series. I thought he was just okay. I didn't suspect that he was a baddie at all. He seemed completely trustworthy.

Jace and Alec reminded me of me and one of my friends: really close, but fight a lot. When Jace told Clary about what 'parabatai' (sp?) meant and he said 'closer than brothers' or something of the sort, I instantly thought of the gay way to take that and couldn't hold back a snicker at the thought. Who knew... -laughs-

Church, furry and lazy, reminded me of one of my cats, so I was instantly amused by him, but a little bit suspicious. I wondered if he was a human turned into an animal or something.

The whole Valentine thing didn't really bug me. I got used to the name when the blue-haired demon mentioned it in the first chapter. Besides, I know 'Val' means 'death' (at least that's what I read about the Valkyrie), so I don't think of it as a sissy name.

I don't have my book with me, so I'll have to get back to you on the typo.

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PostSubject: Re: Chapter 5: Clave and Covenant   Sun Aug 17, 2008 12:14 am

I don't think I really felt that Isabelle and Jace liked each other. I think I was more worried that it would turn out that they did to really feel that way. Because I was already rooting for Jace/Clary, so I was just in worrying mode haha.

I didn't like the way it seemed almost as if Isabelle was disappointed that Clary was waking up. That made me a little mad. But because I hadn't had the chance to get to know her character. Re-reading it, its not as bad because you know that's just how she is.

I don't think I really got how close Jace and Alec were in this chapter. Jace was too busy with Clary and Hodge and it almost seemed as if he was forgetting Alec was there at points. so it was hard to see just how close they were.

I liked Hodge. He almost reminded me of the actor they got to play the professor in The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe. You know, slightly weird but very smart. And I didn't get the feeling that foul play was going on with the letter. I was completely surprised when he turned traitor.

I didn't think much of Church. I just thought he was funny.

And I didn't think Valentine's name was funny at first because I thought it was pronounced Val-en-teen. But the second time I read it, I realised what it was supposed to sound like. But by that time, I was too used to the word to find it funny for a villian.
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PostSubject: Re: Chapter 5: Clave and Covenant   Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:12 am

Wehehehe haw haw!

I didn't really think Isabelle and Jace liked each other. Isabelle came across to me as being the assertive sarcastic type (but then again, aren't they all?) and i figured that her family had taken him in and so she was just talking him up a bit. Making some commentary.

I was wondering for a while why Alec was such a cranky fellow. All i remember is that I kept thinking "man, what's his DEAL? Why he gotta HATE so much?" Jace's standoffish attitude to Alec's attitude made me kinda.. "hrrmmm...!" but I was like "nahhh, couldn't be"

Hodge I did kinda suspect, especially after that second segment with the note and 'whatevaaaahhh' and the blood and such. I didn't get why his bird had to peck his hand though. Moment of BROODING ANGST, or something? proberly.

This chapter was a history lesson, really. And yeah I had a hard time taking the name Valentine seriously Razz I thought it was like... a code name, or a last name perhaps.
Oh, but that did change over time, of course.
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PostSubject: Re: Chapter 5: Clave and Covenant   Mon Aug 18, 2008 2:56 am

I never really considered Jace and Isabelle liking each other or anything, because they just don't really seem to be each other's type. To me, anyway. When Clary woke up hearing Alec and Isabelle talking, I thought to myself, Whoa, where the hell is she?! Then a second later it's like, Oh, she's probably at the Institute. I didn't really know what to make of Isabelle, since she seemed kinda bitchy, but in some way she reminded me of one of my personalities. Personalities in the plural. I can be pretty bipolar. But that is besides the point. Alec to me seemed pretty odd, and I kept thinking, What on earth is his PROBLEM?

Hodge to me was rather cool, but he kept acting so strange. In the end of that chapter, when Hodge was sending that letter, I was thinking, He's not sending that to the Clave is he? If he were, he probably wouldn't seem so tense. I mean, he obviously didn't get along with the Clave, but he shouldn't be that worried. And then by the end of the book I realized he sent it most likely to Valentine.

With Jace and Alec's relationship, I didn't even notice much of anything ntil I found out that Alec was gay and then I went back and re-read some parts. Only then did I pick up on all those small little things, the slight almost tenderness towards Jace...yeah.

I loved Church, because he sounded so CUTE!!!! Although, like Loki, I did wonder a bit if he was really a human and he would turn into one in the end as a plot twist. By the middle, though, I finally got that Church was just a cat.

With Valentine being the name of a villain, I remember just sitting there, blinking. It's like, His name can't SERIOUSLY be VALENTINE. Like the day. Hahaaa, the day with all the mushiness and chocolate and crappy, corny cards, and the name of the bad guy is VALENTINE. Once I got over that, however, it actually seemed pretty corrupted and creepy.

To me, Jace putting the rune on Clary seemed kinda romantic/sexy. I don't really know how to explain it, though. You know, he first shows that he cares about her and stuff. Although he didn't really care about her all THAT much to risk turning her into a Forsaken, he cared about her enough to put a rune on her to protect her. Sorta like a paradox! At least, I'm hoping I'm applying the word paradox correctly....
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PostSubject: Re: Chapter 5: Clave and Covenant   Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:26 am

I'm going to take a little journey over to my bookshelf and look through chapter five at some point.
because no one has posted the typo so far, and I can always use some extra credit. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Chapter 5: Clave and Covenant   Sat Oct 11, 2008 11:12 pm

I don't suppose anyone got that typo eh?

I think I found another one too later on... but I didn't make note of it.


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PostSubject: Re: Chapter 5: Clave and Covenant   Thu Feb 12, 2009 4:13 am

The one thing I can remember about this chapter above all, is when Clary walks in and Jace is on the piano with no shoes. I love the look of guys with jeans and no shoes!(weird I know) The rest is great but I think that's the moment that I feel in love with Jace's character.
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