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PostSubject: Jace and Clary's matching scars- just want to know your theories on this   Tue Jul 08, 2008 2:41 pm

Okay i thought i should ask. Has anyone noticed that Jace and Clary have matching star-shaped scars on their shoulders? here are the quotes...

City of Bones Pg.314 "[Clary] pulled the strap of her tank top aside slightly, showing the star-shaped white mark at the top of her shoulder."

City of Ashes Pg.181 "[Clary] couldn't meet [Jace's] eyes so instead she fixed her gaze on the thin star-shaped scars on his right shoulder..."

But my question is what does that mean?? Anyways just want to hear what you think.


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PostSubject: Re: Jace and Clary's matching scars- just want to know your theories on this   Tue Jul 08, 2008 4:16 pm

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oh
my
god.

Honey..... wow. I think.... wow. Just wow. I love you.

This could mean that this is the sign that very well shows that Valentine did expiriments on them. That his strange expiriments left markings. This could be a sign that maybe they AREN'T related. I cannot belive you noticed something like that! Though of course... the fact that only very few of us notiecd that could mean that it actually does mean nothing. I mean... if nobody ever pointed it out before than maybe it's not that important.

But wow. O_O Major Kudos to you.
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PostSubject: Re: Jace and Clary's matching scars- just want to know your theories on this   Tue Jul 08, 2008 4:19 pm

Oh my! Everyone knew about Jace's scar, but I hadn't realized Clary had one like it also! I'm trying to re read book one so maybe I'll see it now.

But I think you're onto something, interesting subject to speak of!
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PostSubject: Re: Jace and Clary's matching scars- just want to know your theories on this   Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:26 pm

Oh yay, I thought I was the only one who noticed that. YAY I'm not alone. I feel like I was on a deserted island and just found out someone was living on the other side.

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PostSubject: Re: Jace and Clary's matching scars- just want to know your theories on this   Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:16 pm

Yeah i found it one day a couple months ago when i was going through City of Bones and it just sort of hit me and im glad i wasnt the only one to notice it either i just thought i should post it here because my friends and i have run out of theories
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PostSubject: Re: Jace and Clary's matching scars- just want to know your theories on this   Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:23 am

Personally i think its the mark left over from the experiments Valentine did on them but then there is always the question ...How did valentine get to Clary to create that scar because he said he didnt even know Jocelyn was pregnant when she left so he never could have scarred Clary.
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PostSubject: Re: Jace and Clary's matching scars- just want to know your theories on this   Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:06 am

Have any of you heard of the old Polio vaccience? A lot of people in their 40's now have a round scar on thier arm from getting the polio vaccien, because the needles were so big. So maybe they are from the "experements" Valentine supossedly did on them. Of it's compleatly couincidental (srry my spelling sucks!)
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PostSubject: Re: Jace and Clary's matching scars- just want to know your theories on this   Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:21 pm

Experiments is definitely one possibility. Who knows what strange things Valentine did to them. However, like Twihard said, how would Valentine have experimented on Clary? This could have been possible if the experiment was before she was born, cause I believe Jocelyn left while she was pregnant and had not given birth to Clary.

Another possibility is that the scars have something to do with angel wings. Remember Shadowhunters have angel blood in them. Maybe Jace and Clary are more than just ancestors??? Maybe Kaylee can expand on this one as she has a similar theory.
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PostSubject: Re: Jace and Clary's matching scars- just want to know your theories on this   Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:24 pm

I think the marks personally have something to do with their abilities and not so much on the experiments. Since after all Valentine couldn't have done any on Clary, so it obviously has to be something else.

Maybe when we get to Idris a prophecy will be revealed and it will give us all the information we've been wanting so desperately. I mean, other than love because 'they are' his children, there has to be some other reason why Valentine hasn't killed Jace or Clary at this point. Plus he was trying mighty hard to get Jace on his side in both books so far, and I don't think it's just because Jace is his son.

At this point my theory is that they are closer descendants of angels than any shadow hunters before. And maybe that's what the Inquisitor told Jace before she died. I mean his scar made her react for a reason. I still think the theory could be true that he is actually the Inquisitors sons child, but I'm not really sure why the scar would suddenly trigger her to think so - or she could have thought the same thing about Clary and her scar.

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PostSubject: Re: Jace and Clary's matching scars- just want to know your theories on this   Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:56 pm

Perhaps it has something to do with that certain power that it represents?
I know I mentioned it before, but I think I got bowled over (lol) that the star was also the shape of the symbol of the Morgenstern family line. In City of Ashes, when Clary and company go down to see Jace, Clary notices this-and I remember looking at that and going "OH HO HOOOOO"

This could mean a multitude of things, but perhaps also it could be something in the same guise as say.. Voldemort's pursuit of Evil.

For instance, say these stars are linked with a power or ability pertaining to some sort of prophesy. The Morgenstern line is connected with this somehow and that is their symbol. Valentine could NOT be a bloodline Morgenstern, but still be chasing after the power. He has the talent and the ambition, but perhaps the missing pieces. Kay's right, he could kill Jace and Clary at any time-he's had the opportunity, but not of he needs them y'know?

Much like how Voldemort needed those Horcrux whatevers to split his soul and create his immortality. Perhaps Valentine's tests were only involved as far as seeking these children out (primarily Jace) and taking them under his wing because they showed potential. obviously Jace learned a few things before Valentine "died" or whatever happened.

If I was a demented shadow hunter supervillian that knew of a prophesy like that, I'd seek out the kids with the power and try to groom them that they might be loyal to me instead of getting those pesky minds of their own and fighting against me.

A bit rambling, but I hope that makes sense.
Oh, and a bit of an aside, I've been thinking;
What the hell kind of a Nickname is "Jace" for someone who's name is "Johnathan'?
srsly D:
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PostSubject: Re: Jace and Clary's matching scars- just want to know your theories on this   Tue Jul 15, 2008 12:49 am

Jonathan Christopher, Jace it was a letter thing J C= Jace, I thought about that too

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PostSubject: Re: Jace and Clary's matching scars- just want to know your theories on this   Tue Jul 15, 2008 12:57 am

Well yeah
JC
"Jace"

But if you ask me, that's still kinda dumb Razz

but I guess no one did Cool
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PostSubject: Re: Jace and Clary's matching scars- just want to know your theories on this   Tue Jul 15, 2008 3:09 am

I think JC is a better fitting nickname than Jace...eh, writers choice.
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PostSubject: Re: Jace and Clary's matching scars- just want to know your theories on this   Thu Nov 13, 2008 10:56 pm

Alright, so when I read that they both have star-shaped scars, I immediately thought of Romeo and Juliet:
star-crossed lovers.
But of course I don't what them to die like Romeo and Juliet! Mad
I'm not quite sure what they symbolize. Most likely the experiments, of course, but there is the reaction of whatshername, the Inquisitor, to consider. I am wondering if maybe the Clave gave them the scars. How would the Inquisitor know otherwise? hmmmmmm. I just don't know. Question
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PostSubject: Re: Jace and Clary's matching scars- just want to know your theories on this   Sun Nov 30, 2008 9:22 pm

Woah. That's just great, I think its crossed my mind a couple times, but not really you know.
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